My First Accidental Discharge, I am Freaked Out.. Learning Lesson... Need Advice

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I think it takes a lot of "guts" to admit a big mistake like this on a forum of gun owners; hopefully it will serve to remind the rest of us of what can go wrong if we are complacent.

I'll throw this out there: this is a good example of why I don't like the constant "chamber checking, press checking, squeeze checking, finger checking, slide checking..." every time you holster the gun, put the gun in the safe, take the gun out of the safe, put the gun in your glove box... and on and on that people do. There is no point. It is counter productive. Develop a SIMPLE set of handling rules for defensive firearms, follow them without exception, and then you won't have to wonder what condition the gun is in and there will be no need for the constant checking. Every time you "check" (i.e. futz with the mechanism) there is a slight chance of something going wrong. The less "checking" going on, the less opportunity there is for accidents to occur. It did take me a little while to come to this conclusion, but I am there now:

1) Defensive pistol: I use one; the G19. It is always loaded, because I load it after I clean it, put it in the holster, and that is it. The next time it comes out of the holster is when I want to shoot it at the range. I don't need to check it again. All my other pistols are unloaded and in the safe at all times. My defensive pistol is loaded at all times. No exceptions, no wondering, no checking 40 times a day.

2) IF I used an AR15 as a "house gun", first, I would use one, not two (???... are you going to be "dual wielding" here? This isn't Left for Dead on PC). Two guns is twice as many to keep track of. One is more than enough. Once again, I would pick a condition to keep it in; either chambered with the safety on, or not chambered with the safety off and mag inserted... and then, I would not futz with it. I would know what condition it is in, and the only time I would touch it normally would be to put it in or out of the safe if you want to do that while you are gone during the day.

3) Pulling the trigger to confirm it is unloaded works fine on the range, but as you just discovered, you REALLY don't want to figure out it is loaded by pulling the trigger at home and putting a round through the ceiling.

As far as the drywall and ceiling, just go to Home Depot and ask for spackle and popcorn paint; those are easy. What you need to figure out is whether any of it made it out through the roof, and if so, that is by far your biggest structural concern with the house.
 
Painters' Putty is kinda like "play doe" can mold it shape it place it and becomes hard in a short time.
 
Live and learn.

Being in the home building business, I have seen amateurs screw up more drywall repair than actually fix it. Use a wet sponge to blend the putty/caulk in with the rest of the texture. Practice on small areas first till you get the hang of it. Odds are there is a hole in your roof also. Go in the attic on a bright sunny day and look for pinholes of light. Gettin' stung by the bees in the attic is minor compared to the damage that could have happened........ who knows where that last piece of bullet ended up.
 
This is to clance:
I never heard of the requirement to have the thumb safety off when loading a magazine in any Colt model 1911. The manual dioesn't mention the need to take the safety off either. I'll check actual operation at home, but this sounds like an unecessary, unsafe step. What were you trying to do, stuff an extraround in the chamber? Have you EVER had to use 8 rounds without re-loading to save your life or others? That seems extreme and unecessary to me...

Yo! Caddy:

I reread my posting and I didn't see where I stated that I intentionally flip "off" the thumb safety, so I don't know where you got that idea?

I did state that the thumb safety was flipped off "accidentially" when in my vigor to makesure that the mag was seated properly I jarred the whole gun causing it to slide upward in my hand, while my thumb was on the safety.

And I can assure you that my finger wasn't on the trigger either as stated.
 
I have been reading alot of too many AD/ND. I never hope to be one of them. BUt ot play safe, I did but a big bag of play sand. I kkep that sand bag in the garage under my reloading bench. Whenever I chamber a round or check for a round in a chamber, it is always pointed at that sand bag.
 
Glad nobody got hurt. I always, always check the chamber. And if I plan to pull the trigger, I ALWAYS check at least one more time. Usually twice more.
 
can happen to anyone any time all it takes is 1 miss thought ,

I have never had a properly cleared firearm discharge.

Safeties CAN get swiped by equipment, which can leave the trigger exposed to other equipment or whatever, however, I have never had a properly functioning firearm in my hands that has ever discharged, unless I removed the safety and pressed the trigger.

Period.

The "it can happen to anyone" idea is ridiculous, as it CAN'T happen to those who practice safe firearms handling techniques.

Just because some people FAIL to follow proper firearms handling methods doesn't mean that YOU and others can't. It's not rocket science, it just takes discipline.

Negligent discharges are 100% preventable if you care enough, and are disciplined enough, to make them preventable.
 
I had a ND charge once, with a Glock 23, on the very day I bought it. Like the OP, I was preoccupied and don't even recollect what I did to chamber a round. I was ready to put it away and wanted to de-cock it, so I pointed it downwards into a trash can and pulled the trigger.....BOOOOOOM.

This brought on an avalanche of self-loathing. I have been around guns my whole life and never even came close to having something like this happen. I actually considered selling off my guns and quitting the sport. I know it seems extreme, but that's how ashamed and disappointed I was in myself.

Now, in retrospect, I feel that it has made me even safer. I NEVER, EVER put my finger inside a trigger guard until I have checked the chamber at LEAST twice. Yep...TWICE.

I don't ever want to feel like that again.

DD
 
All my guns are in one of two states when not in use. Unloaded, or Loaded but unchambered with safety on. (I don't have any revolvers and my bolt-actions are mag fed).

My Mossberg 500 sits by the bed loaded but unchambered, safety on. Hear a noise at the door? Its quick enough to rack it and thumb the safety. I'm with ny32182. Pick a state to keep em in, and do it all the time. Checking is good too of course, but keep a safe routine, and don't get complacent.
 
First, Calm down.

Second, move on.

I have not had any sort of AD myself YET, but I recognize that statistically it is just a matter of time before i have a bad day and have a lapse in judgment. Anyone here who says that they are just that good and will never have such a thing happen is ignorant and in for a hell of a surprise one day.

Ever put your cereal in the fridge and your milk in the cabinet? It only takes one lapse.

Learn your lesson, teach others your experience, but dont dwell on it as it is one of those things that will (almost inevitably) happen to all of us sooner or later.
 
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Hey JoeSlomo, I believe that is why he stated "all it takes is 1 misthought".... We are all humans and we all make mistakes. I take my hat off to everyone who has posted thier ND/AD stories on this site. It truely takes balls!!! Thankfully, I never have had one in my life, YET. But, I can see where anyone can have a brain fart and this could happen to each and ANYone of us.... Just my opinion...

The Dove
 
[/QUOTE]leaving the bolt open with magazine inserted and chamber empty so all you need to do is drop the bolt.
Absolutely not. Jolted a AR will drop the bolt carrier group loading a round. Quite frankly that is an unsafe method of storage for any firearm.

Loading and unloading is probably the most frequent time in which an AD/ND would occur. You might want to rethink your entire method of storage and approach to availability.
 
I recall some advice from "Hints From Heloise" about repairing small holes in drywall - use toothpaste. Minty fresh odor, too.

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Thanks for posting. It is always good to have reminder of what can go wrong when we get too comfortable doing something. Thankfully no one was injured.
 
as to the hole it the wall... I say leave it... constant reminder of the need for giving the gun 100% of your attention....

But, drywall putty or toothpaste will take care of it with ease if/when you decide to fix it.
 
Yea, I think the multiple ARs by the bed thing is the part that stuck out in my mind as being most shocking about this story. Do you have a room mate or someone else that would be using the second AR or are you literally just chillin with two rifles by your bed at all times "just in case." It seems like it would be more productive to stash one of the rifles in a strategic place elsewhere in the house so you don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Just sayin.
 
Pulling the trigger to verify the gun is unloaded works on the range. That's about it. You don't have a safe direction when you live in the middle of a neighborhood.

I would suggest leaving the magazine out until you've completed your check and closed the action.
 
I haven't had time to read the entire thread...disclaimer.

You said "I always do a test fire in a safe direction"

STOP DOING THAT

Daily dry-firing as a method to make sure the gun is empty is your problem. Open the bolt, look in there, and feel as well. Now you know. There is absolutely no reason to pull the trigger after closing on an empty chaimber. That is the prominant mistake that you need to learn from...Lose the habit of doing that.
 
I would never have pulled a trigger on a gun with a loaded mag. I was very stressed out because of my job and in a rush to get the guns out of the safe. I was obviously not thinking clearly at all. I always check and double-check the chamber before pulling the trigger. Then I point the gun in a safe direction and pull to verify its empty; sadly, in this case, it was not empty, because I forget to obey the other rules!
Stressed out, in a rush, not thinking clearly? All reasons not to handle a gun. Not sure what is going on in your life but the warning signs point to you are not in the state to be around guns. Either a gun is loaded when you pull the trigger or it isn't. Might want to store you guns somewhere else for the time being until your head is straight. Maybe take a gun safety course....Russ
 
Sure am glad your ok, Just think, almost a other cal. and you would see stars at night, with out going outside. I don't like to dry fire any gun, no matter what the mfr says, I think it's a bad habit to get in. As far as snap caps, they train you to dry fire guns (very bad training). I did buy snap caps and dry fired one gun approx 500 times before I ever shot the gun, the mfr recommended this when I tried to order a lighter hammer spring, that they had quit selling. It did help a little. The snap caps have not been used since then.
 
Pulling the trigger to verify the gun is unloaded works on the range.

Ummm.... pulling the trigger to "verify" that a gun is unloaded...:eek:

Drop the hammer for storage, whatever... OK. That debate will probly last longer than The Great Caliber Wars... and always in a safe direction, that's just habit...

But pulling the trigger to see if it's loaded or not...

I'm gonna guess just a poor choice of phrasing...
 
A tube of caulking will work. A friend of mind told me about several incidents where he fired live rounds by accident. He was on the Ga. State Patrol. When I overhaul an engine gas/diesel I check and recheck everything. I do the same with guns, it may still happen. All my guns are loaded, I treat all guns the same. This way you won't say "I thought the gun was unloaded".
 
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