jakemccoy
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I'd take an AK over an AR in this situation. In fact, I'd take an 870 over an AR.
New Orleans prepares for Gustov!
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Drgong
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One word...
Saiga and a handgun...
Ok..thats four...
Saiga and a handgun...
Ok..thats four...
jakemccoy
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Saiga = AK basically.
macadore
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Venice is seventy miles south of New Orleans and as far south as you can go without a boat, and is not very much above sea level. Other than people, there are a lot of dangerous things in the swamp for which a 223 would be an ideal round.
However, it has been leveled before by hurricanes and there will be nothing anyone can do if it takes another hit. If I lived there, I would be buying gasoline for my vehicle and heading north. You can’t swim very well with a case of .223.
However, it has been leveled before by hurricanes and there will be nothing anyone can do if it takes another hit. If I lived there, I would be buying gasoline for my vehicle and heading north. You can’t swim very well with a case of .223.
streakr
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After Katrina most of the firearm seizures were by mercenaries hired by state and federal agencies.
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guntotinguy
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Yep,good idea and as much ammo you can carry!
Bobarino
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while the OP's observations may have been exaggerated, they might not be all that far from the truth. especially in light of this excerpt:
from this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26425142/
i would suspect that a good percentage of those that choose to stay behind are making it a point to be well armed in light of the Katrina.
it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and i wish all those in the storm's path good luck.
Bobby
from this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26425142/
i would suspect that a good percentage of those that choose to stay behind are making it a point to be well armed in light of the Katrina.
it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and i wish all those in the storm's path good luck.
Bobby
daddy-o
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Eric, you're still wrong. The majority of New Orleans is not poor. Stop watching CNN.
Drgong
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NO after katrina is actually VERY affulant, good wages and as much work as you would want.
Should we have a offical "I don't have a firearm, what should I get for Gustav" Thread?
Should we have a offical "I don't have a firearm, what should I get for Gustav" Thread?
HOME DEPOT GEORGE
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You also need to remember that in a city with a criminal element like NO a good portion of the people who don't leave are staying so they can take advantage of the people who did evacuate. It's gonna be like a kid in a candy store or these scumbags.
moga
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Eric F said:
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2008/08/gun_ammo_sales_are_brisk_ahead.html
Gun, ammo sales are brisk ahead of storm
by Chris Kirkham and Brendan McCarthy, The Times-Picayune
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:32 PM
On what would normally be a slow summer weekday, the three employees at Gretna Gun Works Inc. frantically tended to a crush of customers admiring the racks of shotguns and rifles lined up behind the glass counter.
Among the patrons: a jewelry store owner from eastern New Orleans with plans to stand guard through Gustav; two uniformed Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office deputies inquiring about additional firearms; and an avid hunter who was in to pick up a 12-gauge he dropped off for cleaning.
"It's hurricane season, you definitely want it back now, right?" employee John DeRosier said with a grin as he handed the Beretta shotgun back to the owner.
In yet another sign of hardened sensibilities in post-Katrina New Orleans, managers of gun shops and sporting goods stores across the area report a spike in gun and ammunition sales this week.
As Gustav inches closer to the Gulf of Mexico, the stark images of looting and chaos in Katrina's wake remain fresh on residents' minds. Fears of property damage after a frustrating, three-year rebuilding process have some considering staying behind and taking security into their own hands.
Firefighters and other emergency personnel required to stay behind are among the more frequent customers, store managers said.
"I just don't think people want to be caught with their pants down, " said Robby Lack of Destrehan, who was walking out of an Academy sporting goods store this week with ammunition for the shotgun and two pistols he owns, along with gasoline containers and other hurricane supplies.
'You just never know'
...the rest of the article can be found at the link.
J waren I was just there last month for a week for a class(fire department) While I was there the city official even said
Oh yeah I really dont watch cnn either sorry just prefrence...............but with that said I noticed its a cat 5 now and its a mando evacuation for many now, kinda doubt guns will be a priority if this is the case now, we will see what the rest of today brings. I think I would prefer a life jacket and a helmet if I were staying(I already have a good pistol)
All kidding and jokeing aside this is a very "poor" situation(ok again no kidding) no one needs to stay behind for this one this is a real endo of that area as we know it situation. No gun purchase now is going to make any diffrence now. Why would you stay? There is still 24-36 hours to get on out of there. If you feel the need to but a gun get it in Batonrouge on the way north but dont waist time hanging around NO.
Now I am not saying that rich people can or cant live in a place like that I am not even saying that upper eng stores cant be found there. What I am saying is I seriously doubt that any store in the city had as much as the story in the OP stated. Where as there are bound to be some panic induced purchases there are not situations of mas gun store dumpings going on in some sort of frenzy as described in the op.
Oh yeah I really dont watch cnn either sorry just prefrence...............but with that said I noticed its a cat 5 now and its a mando evacuation for many now, kinda doubt guns will be a priority if this is the case now, we will see what the rest of today brings. I think I would prefer a life jacket and a helmet if I were staying(I already have a good pistol)
All kidding and jokeing aside this is a very "poor" situation(ok again no kidding) no one needs to stay behind for this one this is a real endo of that area as we know it situation. No gun purchase now is going to make any diffrence now. Why would you stay? There is still 24-36 hours to get on out of there. If you feel the need to but a gun get it in Batonrouge on the way north but dont waist time hanging around NO.
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Steve Raacke
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Don't come here to Baton Rouge. We are expecting hurricane force winds as the storm passes just to our west. I expect my home, located just south of Baton Rouge, to be crushed by a falling tree. The winds are going to be above 75mph for several hours and I have trees on the east side of my home. Me and mine will be sheltering at my job in Baton Rouge until the winds die down. Anyone heading west out of New Orleans toward Baton Rouge is going the wrong way.
I'm taking a couple of 9mm handguns whit me in the car and maybe one of my AR-15s. Everything else is staying home and I hope to find it in the debris later.
I'll check back in later in the week if I can.
Yes - at my house, the wind is the big killer. I have 11 big water oak trees on my property, any one of which could total my house. They aren't easy to bring down - I only lost one during Katrina, but they are the reason I usually don't stay if hurricane force winds are expected.. I may go stay at a friends house here, or I have two out of town places to go as well.
My best friend lives east of Baton Rouge - I'm not going that way either.
I know Nagin is a little wacky, but the fact is, this Hurricane has the potential to be worse for NO than Katrina. i.e. more water in the city. Any sort of jog that sends the eyewall over Lake Ponchartrain, and it's doomsday - WAY worse than Katrina. Most everyone who lives here will readily admit that we dodged a big one with Katrina - that it could have been far worse if the eye had been 60 miles to the west of where it was.
That said, the weather people here are sounding much more optimistic than they did last night.
We've been battening things down for a couple of days, and the only time I've thought about guns is to think about something to pack them in in case we need to run at the last minute.
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Just want to update:
It is 8:30 in the morning here in downtown New Orleans. I haven't left yet because I spent the last two days preparing my parents that live in Slidell (30 miles north) and now have been up all night preparing myself. The city is empty. Contraflow is in effect and traffic is finally clearing up on the interstate in N.O. Most of the poor and elderly were put on buses and trains yesterday.
Mayors of all the greater N.O. cities have made it clear that if you stay you are on your own. Meaning that you will not have power, water, or sewerage. You will be assumed a criminal and looter if you are found out and about around the city and will be approached with aggression.
The word is the westbank of the river will have SERIOUS flooding. Water will be above the levees. If the storm moves further east it is predicted that the levees on the east side of the river(New Orleans) will have water above the levees. Army Corp of Engineers believe the structure of the levees should hold.
My prayers are with all that have to endure this storm, but most importantly my prayers are with all the inconsiderate people that have wished this storm and Katrina would wipe New Orleans, my home, off the map. I pray you understand how you make the people feel that read your negative, hurtful, comments.
Well, back to work. I got to get North. Hope to get to "see" you guys soon!
It is 8:30 in the morning here in downtown New Orleans. I haven't left yet because I spent the last two days preparing my parents that live in Slidell (30 miles north) and now have been up all night preparing myself. The city is empty. Contraflow is in effect and traffic is finally clearing up on the interstate in N.O. Most of the poor and elderly were put on buses and trains yesterday.
Mayors of all the greater N.O. cities have made it clear that if you stay you are on your own. Meaning that you will not have power, water, or sewerage. You will be assumed a criminal and looter if you are found out and about around the city and will be approached with aggression.
The word is the westbank of the river will have SERIOUS flooding. Water will be above the levees. If the storm moves further east it is predicted that the levees on the east side of the river(New Orleans) will have water above the levees. Army Corp of Engineers believe the structure of the levees should hold.
My prayers are with all that have to endure this storm, but most importantly my prayers are with all the inconsiderate people that have wished this storm and Katrina would wipe New Orleans, my home, off the map. I pray you understand how you make the people feel that read your negative, hurtful, comments.
Well, back to work. I got to get North. Hope to get to "see" you guys soon!
myrockfight
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Good luck up there man! Wish you guys the best. Be careful! At least everyone will be driving so slow there won't be any (or very few) fatal accidents getting out of there.
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Here's a list of stuff more important than guns & ammo if you stay in and around coastal Louisiana during this storm:
-Boat
-Lifejackets
-Axe & Saw
-Fresh Water
-Food
-Generator w/ gas & oil
-Evac plan (if things get too bad)
-Flashlights & candles
-Working radio receiver
-Flares, mirrors & other signal devices
-Walkie talkie or CB radio
-Cell Phone
Having said that, I'd sure have a few guns locked and loaded for good measure. Good luck to the folks who live down there, whether you stay or not.
-Boat
-Lifejackets
-Axe & Saw
-Fresh Water
-Food
-Generator w/ gas & oil
-Evac plan (if things get too bad)
-Flashlights & candles
-Working radio receiver
-Flares, mirrors & other signal devices
-Walkie talkie or CB radio
-Cell Phone
Having said that, I'd sure have a few guns locked and loaded for good measure. Good luck to the folks who live down there, whether you stay or not.
ZeSpectre
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Well how 'bout that, sounds like the "I call BS" folks owe somebody an apology.
As for you THR folks (and those not on THR) who are in 'Orleans and the surrounding areas, PLEASE make smart decisions and may God (or whatever deity you subscribe to) guide and shield you.
Be safe!
Ze
Eric,
I'm not doubting you, and I am not doubting what the city official said. I think I should clarify something in light of the information you just provieded:
There is a HUGE difference in that poverty rate of ORLEANS Parish (New Olreans proper) and the GNO (Greater New Orleans Area.)
Orleans Parish and New Orleans are crippled by poverty and are largely welfare regions. However, when most of us down here speak of New Orleans, we are talking about the GNO-- unless we specifically say Orleans Parish.
In the GNO Kenner, Metarie, and a few other places in Jefferson Parish and surrounding parishes are much more affluent. One area I can think of IN Orleans parish is quite affluent, but it is a the odd area out.
And then there's the North Shore region. The North Shore has been basically an affluent suburb of the GNO for decades. Lately, it is an economic center in its own right-- more independant of the GNO.
So, you are both correct and wrong at the same time-- if that makes sense. In its strictest and narrowest terminology, you are correct in the poverty assessment of NO. As it is applied in common usage for the economic region, it isn't the case.
-- John
I'm not doubting you, and I am not doubting what the city official said. I think I should clarify something in light of the information you just provieded:
There is a HUGE difference in that poverty rate of ORLEANS Parish (New Olreans proper) and the GNO (Greater New Orleans Area.)
Orleans Parish and New Orleans are crippled by poverty and are largely welfare regions. However, when most of us down here speak of New Orleans, we are talking about the GNO-- unless we specifically say Orleans Parish.
In the GNO Kenner, Metarie, and a few other places in Jefferson Parish and surrounding parishes are much more affluent. One area I can think of IN Orleans parish is quite affluent, but it is a the odd area out.
And then there's the North Shore region. The North Shore has been basically an affluent suburb of the GNO for decades. Lately, it is an economic center in its own right-- more independant of the GNO.
So, you are both correct and wrong at the same time-- if that makes sense. In its strictest and narrowest terminology, you are correct in the poverty assessment of NO. As it is applied in common usage for the economic region, it isn't the case.
-- John
AStone
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KK, I wish you the best.
Glad to hear you're leaving NO.
If the worst happens, or even if not,
consider coming on up here to the Pac NW.
We've got lots of room, big mountains, and an impressive ocean.
bogie
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After Katrina, if it looks kinda humid, and the wind is blowing, the media craps their pants, and starts screaming "Hurricane! Run for high ground!"
And hey, everyone knows that, while the folks in South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, etc., can take good care of themselves in a bad situation, the people of New Orleans are as helpless as newborn infants without their government.
And hey, everyone knows that, while the folks in South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, etc., can take good care of themselves in a bad situation, the people of New Orleans are as helpless as newborn infants without their government.
Cool No big deal Jwarren Terminology is always an issue. Is getting a drink having a beer or is it getting piled?
No not really, most called bs based on someone standing in a store while 20 ar's and cases of ammo went out the door. No one called bs on a few gun sales and mixed ammunition purshases.
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