- Mar 19, 2006
Well, there is this: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=178655.
Or you could experiment with 35 caliber bullets in a .45-70 using sabots like these: http://mmpsabots.com/store/blue-sabot/.
I'm a little confused..... Isn't the whole point of straight walled cartridges to achieve a safer environment in the woods by holding down the distance covered before the bullets dig into the sod? If that's right then why go to a lot of trouble trying to make them match the muzzle speeds and flat distance covering of necked cartridges?
I'm also guessing that Ohio is fairly wooded? If so that would mean that most shots will be at closer distances anyway?
Finally if the hunter's there are already used to max 200 yard shots from the shotgun slug shooting then is it that big an issue to close in to the same sort of distance so they can use the greater accuracy of a proper rifle?
Ohio is also a large state...maybe the government's one size fits all mentality doesn't work. Maybe it is perfectly safe in some parts of the state to shoot long range cartridges.
Ohio like most states probably has plenty of wide open agricultural fields.
Hey you might as well say Why the need for guns when hunters were used to harvesting game with bow and arrow.
Only a luddite would eschew trying to find the best solution they can.
Hunting with a straight walled rifle cartridge is a concession to modern firearms hunters in places like Ohio and a good one. I think it will catch on east of the Mississippi.
Shotguns are for shot.
Well in Virginia...in the counties which don't allow rifles or pistols for hunting, they don't allow slugs either.
The fact that so many states have so many rules... (i.e. many places in Virginia are buckshot only, while other states specifically prohibit buckshot)...it tells me that those who are making the rules don't always know anything they are making the rules about (cue "the shoulder thing that goes up")
Then again there are some counties which have people who use their brain and come up with rules like "rifle use is allowed from a stand elevated at least 10 feet off the ground"...in which case they know that shots will be taken at a downward angle.
Like I said...Ohio is a big state...and I am sure there are PLENTY of areas where standard rifle use would be perfectly fine....yet they choose a one size fits all law.
The whole reason that deer hunting with a modern rifle is mostly illegal west of the big river is because of population density. Ohio is the 10th most populated state in the U.S. which tells me that there are very few places in Ohio that aren't populated. When I say populated I mean a structure or road within 300 yards of just about anywhere you want to go in the state. I don't live in Ohio but I've been there many times.
Hunting with a straight walled cartridge is a concession to modern firearms hunters in places like Ohio and a good one. I think it will catch on east of the Mississippi.
Shotguns are for shot.
Are there any states west of the Mississippi that don't allow modern rifles? All of the most population dense states except Kali tend to be east of the Mississippi. Out of curiosity (I can't find a list on the interweb) what states, besides Ohio, Indiana and New York prohibit bottle neck cartridges for deer hunting?