christcorp
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The hardest thing about written communications is people reading into something that isn't there; and instead of asking a simple question, they decide that they know 100% what was meant, because they CHOSE to interpret it they way they think they know best. And you have shown that you are VERY good at this.
There is nothing in my post that NEEDS to contradict your interpretation, because there is absolutely NOTHING in my post that even makes the insinuation that you WANT to apply. The truth is, you want to argue with me because you're unable to argue with my comments. Therefor, you will undoubtedly interpret anything i say to reflect the way you WANT my post to appear to use as an argument; being you can't provide your own points to argue. I never said women don't practice with guns and are going to hurt themselves. If my son was still living at home, I would have included him on the list also. Then how would you have distorted or interpreted the same statement in order to try and provide an argument for your position?
The fact is; MY wife and daughter; not yours, your friend's, or anyone else; but MY wife and daughter aren't into guns and the hobby side of it like I am. They understand the importance of guns and self defense, and they practice at the range a couple times a year with me. I'm out there numerous times a month. Also; even though I really like certain semi-auto weapons (Mostly an interest in military weapons); I have absolutely no problems with using a revolver for self defense. Matter of fact; unless you believe that I have 2 guns sitting "Side by Side" that say "His and Hers"; you again read into it what you wanted to. The same revolvers that are at home for self defense for my wife and daughter; are also the same revolvers that I would use for a home threat. My semi-autos are generally used as carry weapons or range weapons. At home, it's revolvers and shotguns. They are more reliable as a weapon, and for the person who doesn't practice often, they are more dependable.
While I can appreciate your passion that training, practice, and staying proficient is paramount to using guns as a tool for self defense. I agree totally with you. Unfortunately, that is NOT reality. The real world, a large percentage of gun owners have a gun strictly for self/home defense. The weapon sits in the house some place and rarely if ever is pulled out. That is what I have said numerous times in these posts. And as such, revolvers are the safer gun for these individuals to use. You are NOT going to force people to go out there and shoot guns on a regular basis. Those who do shoot on a regular basis is the MINORITY. This is where you are mistaken. You assume that because you shoot often and stay proficient, that most people do. Well, they don't. And while it only takes about 20 more minutes to train a person on the basic operations of a semi-auto over a revolver, that isn't where the problem is. The problem is when a person doesn't use that semi-auto often, and they forget HOW to do certain things. Maybe they forget to turn the safety off. Maybe they forget to chamber a round in. What if after the first shot, it doesn't extract or eject or feed the next round properly. What if it's a light primer strike and doesn't fire. In a standard double action revolver, the basic operation is to pull the trigger and continue to pull the trigger. If it doesn't fire because of a bad round, just continue to pull the trigger.
This has absolutely nothing to do with ego. But it obviously has something to do with being naive and believing the entire world is as experienced and proficient as you are. They aren't!!! And the vast majority of your previous post was all about your interpretation that was not implied at all in my post. I welcome this debate. I think it's very important that people understand that there is a difference between revolvers and semi-autos, and as such require a different level of proficiency. But that for accomplishing the same exact goals, there is one type of weapon (The revolver), that requires less mental involvement, and therefor can be a much more efficient and reliable weapon when the time comes. This is something 30 years of experience has taught me and so many others; including experts; agree with. And it's not something that any discussion on these forums is going to change my opinion of. But these discussions are very good because they allow the noob and lurker to read and realize the importance of training, practice, and proficiency. And that if they aren't willing to spend as much time with their semi-auto developing these skills, and make instill them to muscle memory so they can clear jams, misfeeds, safety, etc... AUTOMATICALLY and without thinking; then maybe they should consider getting a revolver instead of a semi-auto for defensive purposes.
There is nothing in my post that NEEDS to contradict your interpretation, because there is absolutely NOTHING in my post that even makes the insinuation that you WANT to apply. The truth is, you want to argue with me because you're unable to argue with my comments. Therefor, you will undoubtedly interpret anything i say to reflect the way you WANT my post to appear to use as an argument; being you can't provide your own points to argue. I never said women don't practice with guns and are going to hurt themselves. If my son was still living at home, I would have included him on the list also. Then how would you have distorted or interpreted the same statement in order to try and provide an argument for your position?
The fact is; MY wife and daughter; not yours, your friend's, or anyone else; but MY wife and daughter aren't into guns and the hobby side of it like I am. They understand the importance of guns and self defense, and they practice at the range a couple times a year with me. I'm out there numerous times a month. Also; even though I really like certain semi-auto weapons (Mostly an interest in military weapons); I have absolutely no problems with using a revolver for self defense. Matter of fact; unless you believe that I have 2 guns sitting "Side by Side" that say "His and Hers"; you again read into it what you wanted to. The same revolvers that are at home for self defense for my wife and daughter; are also the same revolvers that I would use for a home threat. My semi-autos are generally used as carry weapons or range weapons. At home, it's revolvers and shotguns. They are more reliable as a weapon, and for the person who doesn't practice often, they are more dependable.
While I can appreciate your passion that training, practice, and staying proficient is paramount to using guns as a tool for self defense. I agree totally with you. Unfortunately, that is NOT reality. The real world, a large percentage of gun owners have a gun strictly for self/home defense. The weapon sits in the house some place and rarely if ever is pulled out. That is what I have said numerous times in these posts. And as such, revolvers are the safer gun for these individuals to use. You are NOT going to force people to go out there and shoot guns on a regular basis. Those who do shoot on a regular basis is the MINORITY. This is where you are mistaken. You assume that because you shoot often and stay proficient, that most people do. Well, they don't. And while it only takes about 20 more minutes to train a person on the basic operations of a semi-auto over a revolver, that isn't where the problem is. The problem is when a person doesn't use that semi-auto often, and they forget HOW to do certain things. Maybe they forget to turn the safety off. Maybe they forget to chamber a round in. What if after the first shot, it doesn't extract or eject or feed the next round properly. What if it's a light primer strike and doesn't fire. In a standard double action revolver, the basic operation is to pull the trigger and continue to pull the trigger. If it doesn't fire because of a bad round, just continue to pull the trigger.
This has absolutely nothing to do with ego. But it obviously has something to do with being naive and believing the entire world is as experienced and proficient as you are. They aren't!!! And the vast majority of your previous post was all about your interpretation that was not implied at all in my post. I welcome this debate. I think it's very important that people understand that there is a difference between revolvers and semi-autos, and as such require a different level of proficiency. But that for accomplishing the same exact goals, there is one type of weapon (The revolver), that requires less mental involvement, and therefor can be a much more efficient and reliable weapon when the time comes. This is something 30 years of experience has taught me and so many others; including experts; agree with. And it's not something that any discussion on these forums is going to change my opinion of. But these discussions are very good because they allow the noob and lurker to read and realize the importance of training, practice, and proficiency. And that if they aren't willing to spend as much time with their semi-auto developing these skills, and make instill them to muscle memory so they can clear jams, misfeeds, safety, etc... AUTOMATICALLY and without thinking; then maybe they should consider getting a revolver instead of a semi-auto for defensive purposes.
