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Check the church rules and the local laws.... follow them both or find another church and/or another state...

If you illegally carry in a church, and you have to use the firearm, that is one thing.... If you illegally carry in a church, and some anti finds out and has you arrested during ceremony (trust me, some anti's would try), well, that is a whole nother flavor of Jello entirely...

Concealment fails.... there is a reason we go through the trouble of getting permits, that is so that we can LEGALLY carry.. I would guess you are risking your right to legally carry EVERYWHERE if you choose to illegally carry for that one hour every week... then weigh the odds that something that requires you to be armed will happen in church against the odds that something that requires you to be armed will happen somewhere else...
 
Concealment fails.... there is a reason we go through the trouble of getting permits, that is so that we can LEGALLY carry.. I would guess you are risking your right to legally carry EVERYWHERE if you choose to illegally carry for that one hour every week... then weigh the odds that something that requires you to be armed will happen in church against the odds that something that requires you to be armed will happen somewhere else...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
 
In MO I understand you are required to have the "Senior Religious Instructor's" permission for carry. Along with that, be part of what already may exist as a coordinated effort to provide defensive services. I don't think it's really smart to carry and not be a recognized member who does - suddenly confronting a intruder in an unplanned or seemingly overzealous manner may confuse the situation even more and endanger your life - even by another unknown concealed carrier.

The more relevant issue is why someone would carry and not tell anyone because of some reasoning that the church would not be receptive, or even have members raise complaints. I understand it could happen - but a church is a group of people who voluntarily bond on specific issues of ethics and responsibility. If there isn't "one mind" about the issue, it's time to bring a serious study of the underlying decisions to the forefront.

I would not be a member of a church who did not recognize my training, skills, and experience to act responsibly if the situation existed. It's ludicrous to allow the ignorant few to decide the many can be sacrificed on the altar of pacifism.
 
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In some states you cannot CCW in a church. If you ever pulled under such conditions you would be looking at some SERIOUS legal repercussions!

If you ever HAD to pull under such conditions and were not carrying, you would be looking at the death of your self and loved ones.
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I agree, I would much rather explain to the judge and jury why I was carrying in church than to be killed by a psychopath while I worshiped in the house of God.
 
A friend of mine was carrying at Mass - he kneeled and his revolver slid out of his pocket and hit the floor - the fellow in the pew behind him chuckled and whispered check the floor. No harm done.
 
I can think of no more likely location for a "hate crime".
As opposed to all those "love crimes" out there.
 
One of the hymns you need to sing every Sunday is: "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition"

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whatever you do, if you chose to carry in church, look around you and realize just how easy it would be to miss a BG and hit someone else in the congregation...

You need to be very aware of your skills and limitations, lest you miss your mark and add to the body count.
 
reaper thanks for the link to the video more people should watch this.
 
This topic has really pondered on my brain and I am not saying it is wrong but I keep going back to the phrase WWJD. I don't and probably never will in church, just my opinion, but I do every where else.
 
Violence happens anywhere. I wouldn't advertise it but I wouldn't discourage it either.
Read an article about an off duty cop who didn't carry at church. A gunman came in and started shooting people. All he could do was shield his (now dead) son with his body. Could you live with that?
 
I keep going back to the phrase WWJD.
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Would Jesus allow his Sons and Daughters to be brutally murdered in his house? WWJD? I think he would Provide defense (That’s you.) for his family. (Your congregation.)
 
reaper thanks for the link to the video more people should watch this.
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You are more than welcome! It is the Right and duty of all free people to at all times be armed and ready. No matter what.
 
I respect the opinions of you guys, but for me, bringing a gun into a church just seems to negate the message they have. Loving thy neighbor and forgiveness and fearing no evil seem negated when you have a Glock under your coat.
 
How can a state pass a law making church property a GFZ if its private property? That seems to be an over stepping of the state's power. I realize some church's may not be considered privately owned in the strictest sense but the churches I go to are absolutely private property. My mother-in-law owns the property of one of the churches.
This topic has been done before. I have the opinion that I am a member of Christ's church always. The church building is just that, a building. My behavior should be the same whenever I'm inside of it or outside of it. I did have a talk with the church elders to be sure they didn't have any gripes about it but trust me if they said no I would have talked it over until I got them to come my way.
I carry to defend the one's I love as much as myself. When I'm in the presence of my brothers and sisters in Christ I know that God gave me a different mindset than the ones I'm with. I have the mindset of a fighter and a protector. It's my job to be alert and ready when they are not.
 
Among other public places, we have seen shootings in schools, nursing homes, and churches. If you think you are 100% safe anywhere, you are wrong. I always carry in church. The only thing I don't like about it is that people are always so touchy and huggy at church, so I'll probably get made one of these days. When I do, I suppose I'll bring up something about God-given, inalienable rights, or something like that... and see if the pastor wants to visit the range together again.:)

P.S. As a husband and father of two young children, God has given me the responsibility to protect my family. And I intend to do it no matter where we are.
 
Why should the state decide if you can carry in church? It should be up to a represanative of the church, you cannot carry on private property if the owner of the property states they do not allow CC. However even if you do not have a CC permit if the owner of the property allows you to carry you can do so as long as you are on the owners property. A church should be no different it is real property owned buy normally a congregation not the state.
 
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