I heard a good one today...

[beeenbag]

I was standing in my LGS today and managed to hear an old man tell this woman "Honey, let me tell ya, that .22 magnum has just as much if not more power than a .38 special"

Unless she was already better informed than this man, she walked out with a heritage .22 mag that she thought was a power house.

Later in my visit this man cornered me near the counter and insisted on telling me how he loads bent finishing nails in 12g hulls and how he could stand out in the road an kill everyone in the store with one shot. We were standind in a block building.

I just had to share all this newly found knowledge with you guys. Feel free to share some of your "huh, is that right" moments!

 

[rondog]

Where do those guys come from? I've seen a few myself in my travels. "Gun shop flies", I call 'em, always buzzing around and bothering people.

 

[rio nueces]

There weren't no need to tell me about them nails, no sir. We been doin' that fer years.
good ol' bent nails is really sumthin'. Goes clear thru cinderblocks and bricks and half inch heat-treated steel. They work sorter like a shaped charge, on a dad-burn subatomic newcler level or other.
Now, if you can get you some buckyballs from them ol' boys at Rice University, theys the best buckshot in the world. http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/chemweek/buckball/buckball.html We shoot up ol' cars with 'em down at the bayou and man, do they blow 'em up.
Across the street? Why you could just stand on the corner by the courthouse and shoot that Harrington and Richardson single shot straight up in the air and everbody within half a mile would jus' fall over.

 

[Geckgo]

"40 S+W was created to be the perfect balance between 9mm and 45"

"3006 is way more powerful than a 308"

mercury filled hollowpoints

"22 will bounce around in someone's head and turn their brains into scrambled eggs"

"the sound of a shotgun racking..."

"you could hit someone in the pinky with a 45 and they would spin around and fall over from the force"

"Winchester ammo sucks"

"The longer barrel on this shotgun will give you a tighter pattern"

etc, etc etc, hehehehe

 

[Sediment]

The one about the .22 bouncing around your insides makes me laugh every time. It's actually fun to explain to people that, while it can be deadly, the bullet is not going to turn your ribcage into a pinball machine.

 

[beeenbag]

rio nueces...

You hit the guys slang right on the head. Now picture the guy that was saying that, he was about mid 50s probably, leaning on a cane, big beer belly sticking out, a greying elvis presley haircut, dentures but only the ones on the bottom were complete, tattoos that look more like an ink stamp on his forearms, sweat pants and a motley crue shirt.

keep an eye out for this cat, he is a well of knowledge.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

You find these types every where you go. I was in Cheaper than Dirt store this week and there was one in there wanting to know about the process of getting a silencer for a handgun. He acted like he knew more than the man at the Class-3 counter did.
He was dressed and acted so strangly my wife even pointed him out to me while we were shopping.

 

[preachnhunt]

I had a guy tell me that in ROTC training he was shooting .22 and the instructor said " you are the worst shot I've seen. After 10 shots you got one in the bullseye and missed the whole target with 9"
The guy said " check the trap" and sure enough there were 10 bullets in it-all shot through the same hole!

Another guy said he could kill flies off the dinner bell in his yard with an arrow at 20 yards without ringing the bell. Unfortunately a shoulder injury prevented him from showing me the feat.

 

[kingcheese]

"wow, that little gun you got there cant be that powerfull, its tiny"

i then proceeded to jack the bolt on my mosin nagnt M38 carbine, and pulled the trigger, people came running over afraid that some one had taken a cannon to the range(with good reason)

"9mm is the best round in the world"
lets face it, no one round is the deffinative best at everything

"40sw is just a weaker 45"
no, its a modifead 10mm

"you keep a pound of gun powder in your house? your nuts"
aint gone off yet, on accident, and i doubt it will

"that nagant revolver is a piece of junk"
it hits with a hundred foot pounds of muzzle energy( so yeah its weaker), but its a hundred dollar gun, it shoots, thats what you payed for, thats what you got, i'm happy with mine, and would recomend one to anyone

"you aint gonna hit anything with that .410"

took a 410 trap shooting, shot two rounds of 25, hit them all, after busting 100 with the 20 ga stevens side by side

 

[bannockburn]

Back in the day my brother and I used to call them " Gun Shop Commandos". These "experts" thought they knew everything there was to know about anything firearms related, and of course felt compelled to share this knowledge with everyone. Just a lot of misinformation and hot air for anyone listening.

 

[Onward Allusion]

beeenbag


I heard a good one today...
I was standing in my LGS today and managed to hear an old man tell this woman "Honey, let me tell ya, that .22 magnum has just as much if not more power than a .38 special"

This is actually a true statement, however, the old man neglected to mention that her 22 mag revolver would have to have a 16 inch barrel.

 

[Standing Wolf]

We can't all be on the same side of the bell curve.

 

[ldsgeek]

Yeah, but why does the bell curve look so distorted these days?

 

[oneounceload]

Jerks like that spouting that crap is what it takes to make ALL of us look bad

 

[Geckgo]

ldsgeek, I think the bell curve has actually gotten a little less distorted these days with the internet. Rumors spread faster but so do the truth.

 

[Maple_City_Woodsman]

Only problem with Nagant revolvers is the weak-sauce commercial ammo.

Honest-to-goodness Russian surplus is loaded WAY hotter (300+ftlbs), and doesn't have that goofy double radius crimp either. Just a simple taper to achieve the gas seal. It really makes you scratch your head when you see it next to the commercial offerings.

 

[Liberty1776]

"Gun Shop Commandos" - excellent description. (They also frequent gun shows on a regular basis) I pray for tolerance, I really do, but I'm getting to the point where I want to say "Shut up, you don't know what the hell you're talking about..." But I don't.

 

[Lowshot]

Father to his adult son, " You don't want one of those AR-15 guns , they're for bank robbers and terrorists".

 

[Ranb]

Honest-to-goodness Russian surplus is loaded WAY hotter (300+ftlbs), and doesn't have that goofy double radius crimp either. Just a simple taper to achieve the gas seal. It really makes you scratch your head when you see it next to the commercial offerings.

I load my 7.62 Nagant to 700 fps (100 ft-lbs) and 1000 fps (200ft-lbs). +1200 fps in that little revolver is cooking.

Ranb

 

[Onmilo]

Ummm,,,
A .22 Magnum in a long enough barrel & using a good hollowpoint will create a wound channel that equals or exceeds what a .38 Special will do.
The old fart wasn't too far off and you have to see it to believe it.

 

[bcp280z]

I believe it has been said on here somewhere, that 22wmr has more penetration than a 38spcl.

 

[beeenbag]

Ok you say "In a long enough barrel" yeah you shoot a .22 mag out of a rifle it's gonna hit harder than a .38 snub.

This was two same sized guns. So no the .22 mag is not as good.

 

[CajunBass]

This was two same sized guns. So no the .22 mag is not as good.

But it might have been for HER. Since all I heard of the conversation is what you reported, it might not have been too far off base.

I used to work in a fishing tackle store. Lady came in one day to buy a rod and reel to take her kid fishing in the subdivision lake. I had to excuse myself to dip some minnows or something, and when I got back one of the know it all hangers around was trying to sell her on some high tec graphite bass rod that HE knew was the best thing going. And it was a good rod. But not for her. She needed/wanted and could afford a $10.00 "Snoopy rod."

One size does not fit all.

But to your original point. My wife had to come rescue me the other day from a fellow who was telling me about all his guns. My wife said she saw that my eyes were starting to glass over from the wealth of knowledge I was getting. Everything from "rare" single shot 22's to a rifle that belonged to some VC general or something. By then it was like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

 

[Kliegl]

"40 S+W was created to be the perfect balance between 9mm and 45"

"3006 is way more powerful than a 308"

mercury filled hollowpoints

"22 will bounce around in someone's head and turn their brains into scrambled eggs"

"the sound of a shotgun racking..."

"you could hit someone in the pinky with a 45 and they would spin around and fall over from the force"

"Winchester ammo sucks"

"The longer barrel on this shotgun will give you a tighter pattern"

40 is inbetween the two, and is a good balance, but it wasn't made for that, like others have said. 30-06 IS more powerful than a .308. The Soviet round is 7.62x39, the .308 is 7.62x51, the 30-06 is 7.62x63. Please note the 12 mm difference between each. One can easily notice the difference between the first two, it follows one can notice the difference between the second two.

As for other comments, racking a shotgun slide is a tactic used to flush out hiding impressionable criminals, but, the gun already has one chambered. Winchester ammo is dirtier, I have found, than UMC or American Eagle. Still works.

Lastly, assuming the same choke, a longer shotgun barrel will give a tighter pattern, but it is nothing compared to the influence the choke itself has on it.

 

[jdietz]

Geckgo,

you posted "you could hit someone in the pinky with a 45 and they would spin around and fall over from the force"

My father was a career Marine serving in WWII, Korea, and Nam. He swore that it was true. I heard this from the time I started shooting (around age 6) When I grew up and started shooting IPSC, PPC, IDPA, etc we would argue this over & over. I never could change his belief.

Boy do I wish he were here so we could argue it again.

Thanks for the memories!!