rduchateau2954
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Why do you think the cameraman survived to publish this picture?
While the Ruger GSR is a useful rifle for some applications, it's a poor representation of Jeff Cooper's idea of a Scout.
Why do you think the cameraman survived to publish this picture?
It's 90° with 90% humidity today so I'm hiding indoors today wandering the gunternet. Mostly reading about the .35 whelen and 45-70. Both seem like decent scout gun calibers, but, I've just begun.
That old photo makes me kinda laugh. It's like some guy in a National Park parking lot got chased away by a bear.
I mean, he's not even dressed to be haulin' butt and hurdling logs in the woods. He's got tight jeans which restrict running, let alone hurdling, and he is wearing low top sneakers. Those sneakers are going to get the laces all pulled loose while his socks fill up with cockle burrs. He'd be running like mad while his shoes trip him or come off.
I'm not sure I want to limit myself to the few basic offerings of a factory scout rifle. Especially since none of them meet with the "true scout" standards. I was thinking about maybe a short rifle with a good set of peep sights might be fun.
If you have a good idea of what you want the rifle do do, and what you can do with the rifle, and it doesnt fit with somebody elses, then do what you want. My idea of a general purpose rifle will probably end up being a 20" barreled tang safety Ruger 77 with decent irons (rear will likely be a Lyman 56 milled flat to fit the Ruger receiver, the slide stowed under the butt pad) and a low to medium power (1-4 or 2-7) scope in the "normal" spot. Not sure if it will be a 260 or 308. If the shoulder gets better 308 may work.
Same goes for a Cooper "approved" scout rifle. It is a useful rifle for some applications. Both make good hunting rifles, though.
On the other side of this the thought of a 45-70 lever gun makes me smile as well.There is an M77 in .35 Whelen on GB. Maybe shorten the barrel, add a inconspicuous muzzle break, and a nice set of peep sights? Smell what I'm rolling in here?
I don't view the 6.8 SPC as an improvement since it lacks the punch and range of the .308
That old photo makes me kinda laugh. It's like some guy in a National Park parking lot got chased away by a bear.
I mean, he's not even dressed to be haulin' butt and hurdling logs in the woods. He's got tight jeans which restrict running, let alone hurdling, and he is wearing low top sneakers. Those sneakers are going to get the laces all pulled loose while his socks fill up with cockle burrs. He'd be running like mad while his shoes trip him or come off.
And just like some people somehow survive not using the perfect gun for every circumstance, some people actually get out in the woods wearing stuff that others dont. A good Navajo hunter I know wore tennis shoes and jeans when he went out. His hunting food of choice was a couple doughnuts or sweet rolls before he went hunting.
I find it somewhat amusing watching videos of the Kurds thumping ISIS in Syria. It looks like a great many of them wear tennis shoes. They also have girls fighting. Everybody knows you cant actually fight in tennis shoes, and that girls arent capable of fighting wars.
I see things in Caribous pics that many believe will lead to instant death if one happened to wander 30 feet off pavement, like wearing cotton in Alaska, and not carrying a huge knife, or a monster pistol, or a full pack of Survival! gear all the time.
ETA: RE the pic, the guy is in fact jumping over the logs. Its a bit amusing to see a comment basically saying he cant do whats hes doing.
I'm just having fun with my observation.
The main thing is, I was just having fun observing a photo staged for a publication. There is open ground to the left of that log.
Coopers definition of a Scout rifle has become so convoluted over the years that I'm not sure anyone even remembers the original criteria.
So, here it is, in depth.