I don't understand this question and why it keeps coming up. I'm completely opposed to Birkenstocks (those hippie sandles), but I don't do a Birkenstock check when some dude comes into my house...I don't have a "no Birkenstocks" sign on my door. If you are an otherwise reasonable guy, but you have been know to wear Birkenstocks, I will still let you into my house. If you are an unreasonable guy, Birkenstocks or not, you're not coming into my home. What's with people? These people who's homes are a "gun free zone" are just as silly as a "Birkenstock free zone" or a "Teva free zone" or a "silk thong free zone"..... Well you know what, I just made my home a "your house is a gun free zone, free zone"
What's The Etiquette On Carrying In Someone's Home
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Mannlicher
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sounds like its only an issue if you make it an issue. Just leave it be, and don't bring the subject up.
rainbowbob
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No offense taken - I was just hoping to hear from the person who made the statement. But you may be right about him never checking back.
As a matter of safety, the gun always stays with me. When they greet me with a hug, I make sure to put my left arm under theirs so they don't feel it, from then on things go on as normal.
I'm thinking about moving to another state where some of my family lives, I've already talked to one of the church leaders and after one conversation, I've got their blessing to carry in church too.
I'm thinking about moving to another state where some of my family lives, I've already talked to one of the church leaders and after one conversation, I've got their blessing to carry in church too.
TwitchALot
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Sac said:
IMO, you shouldn't have to notify. If it is not explicitly prohibited to begin with, then it should be assumed that it is not prohibited, and if a home owner finds out and asks you to leave, the most they should be able to to do is kick you our of their home.
That said, there is no conflict between home owners rights and CCW (and to be clear, I'm not just directing this at you sac- this is a general address), and it is astounding that so many people feel otherwise. You do not have a right to be in someone else's home. You can either abide by their rules or leave. THR has seen this discussion many times, but quite frankly, if I were to go into your home (or anyone else's here) without their permission, and you pointed a gun at me and I shot you, would any of you defend my actions on the grounds of self-defense?
Of course not. How the hell can I have the right to self-defense in your home when I don't have the right to be in your home in the first place? The First Amendment doesn't allow me to assemble in your home and give a speech any more than the Second allows you to carry a gun in an anti's house. There is no conflict of rights whatsoever because you don't have a right to be on someone else's private property, period. If the owner grants you permission to be there and applies certain conditions (like keeping guns out of the house), then you can abide by that and get the permission to be there, or you can leave, because you don't have a right to be there in the first place. If you choose to accept the conditions and enter the home, you choose to accept the risks of disarming yourself, and therefore choose to accept the possible consequences of whatever may happen. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go in that person's house- you don't have a right to be there.
I'm sure everyone can derive my stance on the issue from here.
Ignoring that aspect of it, however, it's rather rude to go on someone else's private property without their permission, no? Seems pretty clear cut to me.If it was concealed, I would keep it that way. I don't know if there is any reason notify them unless you think you can't keep it concealed.
As I said before, In my home, keep it concealed and don't pull it out (not counting emergencies). It is not that I oppose your right to carry, I just don't want people I don't know handling firearms in my house without a little notification/permission. Keep it concealed. I have seen too many people make mistakes handle guns including people who know better.
As I said before, In my home, keep it concealed and don't pull it out (not counting emergencies). It is not that I oppose your right to carry, I just don't want people I don't know handling firearms in my house without a little notification/permission. Keep it concealed. I have seen too many people make mistakes handle guns including people who know better.
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The guns isn't out of control, it's on a table in the holster. I don't CC in my own house either. I guess I'm funny like that. K frame gets heavy after awhile. My friends are cool like that.
If I'm at a party or someone has kids or I'm not sure how they are about guns, I leave it at home or in the vehicle.
fearless leader
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What they don't know won't hurt them
I can't say for sure if it's right or wrong, but this is what happened to me.
I met a girl at a celebration, my partner met her room mate, and my date's brother was too intoxicated to drive, but my date offered to drive us all to their house.
I had a perfectly good S&W Model 57, 41 Mag under the seat of my car, but decided it would be inappropriate to bring it to someone's home. I would live to regret it.
The brother and sister had a spat, about 3 blocks from their house. My partner and his date, began walking to the house and I followed, not wanting to get in a family squabble.
My date arrived about 10 minutes later, with the license plate to her brother's car in hand. (seems she paid for the plate).
The next morning, a man the size of Paul Bunyan was standing over us with a leg from a coffee table, ordering my date to give him the tag.
She refused. He said, "your Brother is waiting outside with a rifle if you don't." She refused and the large man went outside to get a rifle.
I told her to lock the door. She said it doesn't lock. That's how he got in.
I said call the police! She didn't have a phone! (This is about 1980)
I heard 2 shots from outside, and then he came in, pointing a Marlin 22 Semi auto (18 shot) at us, demanding the tag. She bent it in two! I asked if there was a peaceful solution to this, but he turned to me and said, "I done heard all I'm gonna hear outta you!"
He was pointing the rifle as a pistol, squeezing the trigger slowly, or so it seemed. I had no cover, I was in the middle of a large room. I couldn't charge him before he could pepper me with bullets. I was pretty well screwed!
Just then, I heard someone say,"PUT THAT GUN DOWN, BUD!" He lowered his rifle, and I looked toward the door, and Sampson County's finest came to my rescue, but I would have felt better if they came to a "shots fired" call with their guns in hand! At NO TIME did they make the thug put down his weapon and he continued to carry it, finger on the trigger, cocked and loaded, while the officers' guns remained in their holsters. :banghead:
So the neighbors called when they heard the shots. I will not make that mistake again. I will carry, loaded, covertly if necessary, in anyone's house I am invited into.
I can't say for sure if it's right or wrong, but this is what happened to me.
I met a girl at a celebration, my partner met her room mate, and my date's brother was too intoxicated to drive, but my date offered to drive us all to their house.
I had a perfectly good S&W Model 57, 41 Mag under the seat of my car, but decided it would be inappropriate to bring it to someone's home. I would live to regret it.
The brother and sister had a spat, about 3 blocks from their house. My partner and his date, began walking to the house and I followed, not wanting to get in a family squabble.
My date arrived about 10 minutes later, with the license plate to her brother's car in hand. (seems she paid for the plate).
The next morning, a man the size of Paul Bunyan was standing over us with a leg from a coffee table, ordering my date to give him the tag.
She refused. He said, "your Brother is waiting outside with a rifle if you don't." She refused and the large man went outside to get a rifle.I told her to lock the door. She said it doesn't lock. That's how he got in.
I said call the police! She didn't have a phone! (This is about 1980)
I heard 2 shots from outside, and then he came in, pointing a Marlin 22 Semi auto (18 shot) at us, demanding the tag. She bent it in two!
I asked if there was a peaceful solution to this, but he turned to me and said, "I done heard all I'm gonna hear outta you!" He was pointing the rifle as a pistol, squeezing the trigger slowly, or so it seemed. I had no cover, I was in the middle of a large room. I couldn't charge him before he could pepper me with bullets. I was pretty well screwed!
Just then, I heard someone say,"PUT THAT GUN DOWN, BUD!" He lowered his rifle, and I looked toward the door, and Sampson County's finest came to my rescue, but I would have felt better if they came to a "shots fired" call with their guns in hand! At NO TIME did they make the thug put down his weapon and he continued to carry it, finger on the trigger, cocked and loaded, while the officers' guns remained in their holsters. :banghead:
So the neighbors called when they heard the shots. I will not make that mistake again. I will carry, loaded, covertly if necessary, in anyone's house I am invited into.
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Pilgrim
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Don't ask, don't tell.
Right on. Concealed means concealed, end of story.
If 2 armed guys in ski-masks kick in the front door during dinner and you shoot them both down, do you really think the friend is going to say "HOW DARE YOU BRING A PISTOL INTO MY HOME!!? YOU BETRAYED MY TRUST!!!" Would that be their reaction after you just saved their family from rape, robbery, and death?
Other than that there would be no reason to reveal you were carryng. If you "show" or can get "made" easily- that is your own problem of not finding a method that makes it 100 percent invisible.
ochmude
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If you happen to live in a state that does not require you to disclose to the homeowner (unlike Massachusetts, which does...I hate my state), and you are in the home of someone who is not extremely familiar with firearms, how would you feel about this as an opportunity to introduce someone to shooting and firearms ownership. There are a LOT of people that really don't even know that you can legally carry to protect yourself. They may not be anti, just simply unaware. You'd obviously have to play each situation by ear, but I think it might be worth a shot. And just to belay people's concerns, I'm not suggesting you pull out your CCW and have a show and tell with a condition 1 weapon. More of a conversation starter..."Yes, I am armed right now. I'm not crazy, I'm not seconds away from going on a murderous rampage, I'm not paranoid, I'm just prepared for something that I hope never happens. And, you can be too."
stevelyn
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Alaska requires that you seek the homeowner's permission to carry on their property, but I don't hang out with the types that would object anyway, so it isn't a big deal for me.
I just had a similar situation two nights ago, when meeting the parents of my step daughters fiance. the father of the groom to be, is an older Chap in his around 70. Everything was normal, 3 of us were talking, and the subject of guns somehow came up, he was adimatelly anti-gun. He asked my opinion, and since my step daughter is aware that I always carry, and everyone other than the Father of the groom, as I took the future son in law, to a gun show. I told him the truth, and his eyes almost fell out of his head, to top it off the guy is an ex Marine, who fought in Korea. I think that is why, he saw his friends killed there, and never got over it, but one would think that would make it even more acceptable tha a non military type. As I explained Florida's gun laws to him, he sat there shaking his head, and said, I may have to leave this state. Im not kidding, he got so upset, I couldn't believe it. On the other hand his wife and daughter, pulled me on the side and told me that they,his daughters and wife, have gone shooting and not told him. I have the feeling, that when we go to his house, I will be asked to not bring a gun. So I hope he will understand why I won't be coming over. This is the first time that this has happened in all the years (35), that I have carried but I don't go where I can't carry. Unless it's on the list of places that are restricted by law.
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