Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Treo, Apr 17, 2008.
Concealed means Concealed.
I don't normally ask my host if my underwear color offends them either.
I think your hot pink thongs are going to offend anyone!
In my case it’s usually a non-question. Generally, anyone that knows me well enough to invite me into their home knows that I am A) a gunny and B) I carry.
However, if I was unsure I would ask. I’m real twitchy about my home and extend the same courtesy to others.
And furthermore, if someone asked me not to, I'd think it damned strange, no different from someone asking me to leave me knife, wallet, or flashlight in the car.
Of that I have no doubt
They do work well for Mexican Carry however, but that's a different thread, hopefully without pics
It's not about their comfort, or being polite. It's about your mutual safety. You'd sure as hell feel like a jackass if you needed it and left it in the car because they might have been iffy about it.
Concealed means concealed.
Now, if they know, and ask me not to carry, that's a very different situation.
In my case, I carry under a jacket, at least in winter. I like to take the jacket off when inside, so concealed is not concealed.
If I know the person well and figure they won't object I keep it. If it is some comparative stranger I leave it in the car.
Carry it concealed if they happen to see it and request that you do not carry it don't carry it. If you live in a state where it is required than ask.
Yes, different entirely. To the point of "Well, I'm leaving. I won't be coming back."
Since the OP is asking about etiquette and not the law I'll tell you that this is one of those items where I take a decidedly hardline stance.
Friendship implies trust. I have a lot of "associates" but very few friends. I can't think of a single person who actually calls me "friend" who would be in the least concerned about my state of preparedness. Hell I've picked up their kids, housesat (with all of their worldy possessions in my care) loaned and borrowed cars/trucks/motorcycles. They've entrusted their lives to me by being a passenger in my car, on and on and on.
I had someone freak on me once and I told them I'd respect their wishes and I left (and now that I think about it I haven't been back since).
They have just as much "right" to irrationally moderate the wearing of boxers and briefs. But unless they impose a restriction, I wouldn't bother asking. Concealed items are really not necessary to discuss.
Since we are talking about edicate here, a home owner may have the right to militarize the property and strip search their guests, but it's not polite. Edicate restricts their "rights" here too.
Now, if the owner forbade me to wear briefs or guns or whatever while in his home, I doubt I'd go there again.
As far as rights...
The right to be secure "in your persons" is listed right up there with houses and effects.
Not hopefully, but definitely.
Do what you wish on your own time, but banana hammocks are not welcome here at THR!
Your poor wife.
"Wear a gun to someone else's house, you're saying, 'I'll defend this home as if it were my own.' When your guests see you carry a weapon, you're telling them,'I'll defend you as if you were my own family.' And anyone who objects levels the deadliest insult possible: 'I don't trust you unless you're rendered harmless'!" L. Neil Smith, The Probability Broach
I've never heard of the "must disclose to homeowner" provision, but then I don't live in Louisiana.
How many states have such clauses? I've never heard of such a thing wrt PA or TN, and though I'm early in the process, haven't noticed any provision like this for WA, either.
Alaska,Louisiana and South Carolina are 3 states offhand.
There may be others where you must disclose to the homeowner/renter.
In Ct you do not have to disclose to anyone.
If someone posts no weapons signs, then you are obligated to comply.
Why would you give up control of your firearm in that way? Why not just leave it in the holster?
Washington State is not a "must disclose state" - and I will not announce to every home-owner upon entering their home that I am CCW. If their wishes are known to me - I will respect those wishes. That being said, I have disclosed my CCW to my daughter and brother, and was informed by them that they do not want firearms in their homes. In those cases, I leave it locked in the car.
Wow Thanksgiving at your house must be awsome!
"alright Grams, your youngest son already took your prefferd holster. So I found you a nice shoulder holster and a criss cross pair of bandoliers....Remember there is no saftey on the tupperware!"
Same here. If they don't ask they don't need to know. It isn't hurting anyone and if it's legal I don't see the problem.
I believe plexreticle was being humorous,rainbowbob.
He may be joking - but I don't know until he tells me...that's why I asked him.
That is a awesome quote.
I will always respect the wishes of the homeowner.
I also assume that everyone I know is rational.
If the person would object seriously or would react badly if they knew that I had a firearm, I most likely would not be there in the first place. Unless it was someplace I had to go for good reason.
Sorry.Did not mean to offend.
And plex may never check into this thread again.
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