Bartholomew Roberts
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Hmmm, pretty mixed ayes and nays so far...but all the "moderates" are going aye. So it will probably pass, just with fewer votes this time.
7/28/05 Senate S.397 Discussion
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RealGun
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The reason this amendment was allowed is because Frist was in favor of it and voted for it.
SmershAgent
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And the reason he was in favor is because without a token concession to the other side, enough moderates would probably have opted out that passage would have become a very arduous proposition.
scout26
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No real damage done if this passes (which it will), pretty much every new gun (pistols, rifles and shotguns) come with them already in the box. Throws a bone to the moderates to support the overall bill.
(I have several, for sale, if anyone is interested.)
(I have several, for sale, if anyone is interested.)
RealGun
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It was cited a number of times that a majority (60%) of gun owners were in favor of the trigger lock requirement. That's enough to include lots of gun owners that don't have clue and ignores that 40% against is a very significant number. But it makes a fine excuse..
Bartholomew Roberts
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Could be or it could be that Frist wasn't going to get 60 votes for cloture without supporting the bill. No way for me to know.
Studduck
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Locks
It is really a non-issue. The last 4 guns I have purchased have had locks included in the box.
It is really a non-issue. The last 4 guns I have purchased have had locks included in the box.
KriegHund
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My ruger came with one.
What about Milsurp, does the law only apply to NIB guns? Ide like to get a 130$ makarov without an exytra 30$ lock, becuase you know theyt are gonna wayyyyy overprice the locks, and they will give you the crappiest they can find too. Buit if your already paying 600$ it doesnt make to much a difference.
What about Milsurp, does the law only apply to NIB guns? Ide like to get a 130$ makarov without an exytra 30$ lock, becuase you know theyt are gonna wayyyyy overprice the locks, and they will give you the crappiest they can find too. Buit if your already paying 600$ it doesnt make to much a difference.
Studduck
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Giving Away Locks
Gander Mountain in Houston is giving them away. Just walk in and get one. No purchase necessary.
Gander Mountain in Houston is giving them away. Just walk in and get one. No purchase necessary.
Bartholomew Roberts
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IF it is based on last year's amendment, then it doesn't apply to C&R guns.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Just in case any of you think you can't make a difference, please note that the five pro-gun Senators we got elected from our list in 2004 have all voted no so far (Coburn, Isaakson, Martinez, - no votes on the other two).
RavenVT100
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In my state, the cops give them away. I can go into the police station and request locks. Then the locks are given to me.
I don't think there's a limit on how many you can get, either. They have boxes of them.
I don't think there's a limit on how many you can get, either. They have boxes of them.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Hell, I have boxes of them. I could have a new safe if I could get $10 for each of them.
I hope you guys are right, but I won't be reassured until I see the text. It's not on Thomas and I doubt more than a couple of our esteemed congresscritters read it either. Anyway I'm out of here for now, I have a groupbuy payment that needs sent out (the parts kit will not be coming with a trigger lock, I hope it doesn't kill any children 
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)KriegHund
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Yay! Milsurps are safe 
And boo that it passed. They sriously think it will help....oh well.
And boo that it passed. They sriously think it will help....oh well.
RealGun
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70-30 in favor (of trigger locks) was discouraging to say the least.
Kurush, Santorum voted for this amendment last time this lawsuit immunity thing was up for consideration too. I remember because it kind of surprised me. Either way, PA already does this. I agree with the sentiment of throwing a bone to the moderates to get this bill through. After that, we can all throw the locks away. I just hope we don't have to purchase them. The text of last year's amendment says "provided," so hopefully that will still be the case.
RealGun
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DeMint and Graham of SC voted NO. DeMint is the new Senator.
p.s. Both
are RepublicansThune voted NO.
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