Marlin 39 Club - Postcard Match

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There will be NO rule changes.

I stated this in message #30, but I will repeat it here for good measure.

We'll just handle the deadline as it was originally stated, get the cards to me by Thanksgiving. If you have a late one on the way, let me know and I will delay as much as possible, but try to get your cards in the mail the week before turkey day. I don't think we need to get too formal with it.

That being said, KMBRTAC45 and tubeshooter are in now as well. Ha, tubeshooter, your official, no backing out now :evil:

Nem, I wish you luck getting your squirrel gun back in time for hunting season ;), after all, their is an overpopulation of 3x5 index cards we need help harvesting. :D
 
...an overpopulation of 3x5 index cards we need help harvesting.
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This appears to be more of a problem than most people realize. I was in a local chain store recently,
and several shelves in the "office supply" area were overflowing with 3X5's. :eek:

And they're mutating into many colors: blue, pink, green, yellow ...

I think it may be because we've hunted their natural predators to near extinction,
so their population is exploding, taking up waaaayyy too much shelf space. :scrutiny:

You know, at the rate they reproduce, if it weren't for this contest,
the entire planet could be covered 50' deep in index cards in a very short time. :uhoh:

I'll try to do my share to reduce this serious threat ... if I can just get my rifle back.
May have to pull out the 1894C until then ...

:D
 
Thanks for the kind thought, Frank.

Y'all better watchout: the cards will become more numerous than
the wild hogs without serious attention.
 
Y'all better watchout: the cards will become more numerous than
the wild hogs without serious attention.
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Yeah, but they aren't nearly as dangerous. Where feral pigs can take you apart if you get crosswise with them, the dreaded 3x5 can only give you a nasty paper cut. :eek:

Of course, if you stir up a whole hive of em, it would be a death of a thousand cuts. :scrutiny:
 
Just wanted to get clarification on something. Is shooting seated okay?


Because I like to shoot my .22 out of a lawn chair or off some porch steps, usually. Especially when I'm expecting a long session.
 
Tubeshooter-

Yes, you can sit in a chair when you shoot.

Here's the rule:

"No mechanical supports, no sandbags. The rifle must be supported only by the participant’s two hands which cannot be supported below the elbow. You may place your elbows on a bench, the ground, knees, etc. or shoot off hand. All shooting positions will be judged the same."

As long as THE RIFLE is supported by nothing but your hands, and your arms are unsupported from the elbows out, you are good to go.
 
Just wanted to get clarification on something. Is shooting seated okay?


Because I like to shoot my .22 out of a lawn chair or off some porch steps, usually. Especially when I'm expecting a long session.
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You can rest your elbows, but nothing beyond that. And no other support for the rifle except your hands, i.e., no sandbags, bipod, tripod, cradle, etc. I sat at a bench and put my elbows on the table. I believe Mo sat on the ground and rested his elbows on his knees. I tried to shoot prone and put my elbows on the ground, but my gut is not the same size it was when I was in the Army the last time I did that and it threw me off. :eek: You don't have to shoot offhand, with no support at all, I know I would be happy to get three on paper doing that.

So, to answer your question without the long winded explanation, yes. Sitting in a lawn chair with you elbows on the arms would be perfectly fine. :)
 
JAG-

Your scoring system had me confused. I started fooling with it in an attempt to understand why we were going to the extra effort of adding dimensions.

I get it now.

Doing it this way gives a representation of the AREA of the group, and it's a better way to determine who shot the smaller group.

I've always thought of group sizes in a single dimension. A "One inch group" was exactly that and I never gave it any more thought.

Now, I see that your system could score a "One inch group" anywhere from a 2.0 (Three shots in a straight line, with the outer two an inch apart) to a 3.0 (Three shots in a triangle, all one inch apart).

Very cool!

Suddenly, I suspect that this is not the first time you have messed around with shooting matches!
 
I saw a 3X5 card grazing down at my range today; had to shoot it 3 times - that bad boy refused to die!

I'm sending that one in because I know for certain I'm not going to get any luckier over the next couple of months. :) Jaguar will see what I mean when he gets it.

Seems like #13 just might be my lucky number from now on!
 
This is something that i would love to participate in, too bad i don't own a 39, just a 60 and 25 :rolleyes: .

maybe someone (or even me) could start another one for stock semi auto's in the future, or something else for everyone not blessed by the beauty of a 39.
 
A model 60 shoot would be fun.

I have one of those, too.

I haven't tried to shoot any of the matches on this board because none of my guns are set up to be competitive.

I don't have any fancy triggers, or special barrels, or trick bedding.

And I'm really not interested in building a rifle to compete with the guys that do that.

But shooting in a "Fun Match" against rifles like mine would be a great way to justify some range time.

Maybe we should get a model 60 club thread started.
 
Well, something interesting happened today. I use calipers to to judge the cards, and since I don't own a pair I use the pair I have at work. I'm going to be off work the rest of the weekend, and I know Frank was sending in his card so I brought my calipers home with me today. Sure enough, there was Mr. Fast Frank's card waiting on my desk when I got home. So I open it up, pull out the calipers and take the measurements, writing them down on the card. I'm eyeballing the centers and rounding to the nearest 5 thousandths, and writing the info on the card. I pull up my spreadsheet and enter all the information, look at the score that is automatically tabulated, and low and behold, we've got a tie!:scrutiny:

So, wanna know who he tied with? I'll give you a hint...

He shot in the "magnified" class and there is only one other person so far who shot in that class.

Yep, you guessed it, Fast Frank and Jaguar are tied! According to the rules, he who's furtherest shot from center is closest to the center will determine the tie. I'm not telling who won the tie breaker. :neener:
 
missoulaz28 wrote:

This is something that i would love to participate in, too bad i don't own a 39, just a 60 and 25 .

maybe someone (or even me) could start another one for stock semi auto's in the future, or something else for everyone not blessed by the beauty of a 39.
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Feel free to start one up. I'm not a bigwig on this site or anything, I have been a member for a long time but only had a few posts to my credit. I just threw the idea out there and people said they would be interested. Granted the 39 Club was up and running and that made it easier to get people's attention about this, but I'm sure if you tried, you would find people willing to participate.

I offered my services as judge because I put forward the idea in the first place. I was afraid it was going to be a pain when I took the gig, but have found I am having more fun talking to people about this, keeping this thread up, PMing back and forth, than I thought I would. I'm having blast and thanks to you people who are making it enjoyable. :D
 
I'm not telling who won the tie breaker. :neener:
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Ah, yeah, but it's a moot point,
because the rest of us are gonna smoke you guys anyway. :p

:D

(OK, so remind me please:
which end of this thing does the bullet come out of?)
 
Awesome!

Nemo said:
Ah, yeah, but it's a moot point,
because the rest of us are gonna smoke you guys anyway!
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Nope! I'll be accepting my "Bestest 39 Shooter FoSho" trophy at the end of contest banquet!:D

I'm already working on my acceptance speech.

Here's a sample-

"I would like to thank all the people that helped me get here. I couldn't have done it without them!

I want to thank all my sponsors: First, Marlin for building what was clearly the best rifle in the competition.

I want to thank the Federal Cartridge Company for the custom hand loaded match ammo. I couldn't have done it with out them!

I want to thank Continental Airlines for flying me around to all the fund raisers!

It was a rough competition with some of the fiercest competitors in the world, but thanks to you guys I was able to dominate and triumph!"





What do you guys think? It's not too"Over The Top", is it?

Does anybody know what the trophy girl looks like?
 
I was able to dominate and triumph!"
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Did you miss the "we're tied" part? :p

Y'all crack me up.

I saw a 3X5 card grazing down at my range today; had to shoot it 3 times - that bad boy refused to die!
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Did it leave a blood trail you could follow? :confused: How did you find it?

Suddenly, I suspect that this is not the first time you have messed around with shooting matches!
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Ah contraire. This is my first go round. However, being an engineer it just made sense to score three holes this way. Maybe I do too much 3-D modeling (Inventor and Solid Works), but this is the only logical way I saw when I first started thinking about it. It is a parameter measurement, not maximum distance measurement. I really didn't think I would need the tie-breaker, but once again I was wrong. I really aught to get used to that.:banghead:
 
Maybe I do too much 3-D modeling (Inventor and Solid Works), but this is the only logical way I saw when I first started thinking about it. It is a parameter measurement, not maximum distance measurement.
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You know, the fact that you're computer geek (that's a complement, btw) just opened an interesting idea for me.

Not necessarily for this contest, but thinking ahead to cool things that could be done ...

<thinking out loud here ... no good ideas, let alone truth, implied ...>

I wonder if one could scan the cards using a flatbed. On my Microtek 4900, I could scan a dozen or more at a time, and as long as one scanned at the same resolution, there would be consistency between batches.

Then, CAD/3D (or even 2D in this case) folks must have all kinds of software that could do easy analysis. Why, you could probably measure distance parameters in units of single pixels, and do other kinds of analysis that could yield some interesting data about shooting patterns.

Like I said, just thinking out loud ... which can be dangerous, especially on Friday afternoons ... :uhoh: :scrutiny:
 
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